User talk:Halftheisland
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To try to get some order and logic to the Audio and Music file types, aren't "trackers" of the sort as some you've posted more in the area of instrument control than direct storage of audio (e.g., more like MIDI than WAV)... and thus, belonging in the Music rather than Audio section? Or does this ontology not make sense and need to be rethought? Dan Tobias (talk) 17:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- (Maybe Audio and Music should be merged, and then grouped into subcategories such as Musical Instrument Control and Sound Wave Storage?) Dan Tobias (talk) 17:44, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- I think trackers pose an interesting problem in the Music vs. Sound issue - they produce single, self-contained files which hold both the instructions for playback and (often) the samples / instruments. They aren't, as far as I'm aware, generally used to control a standalone instrument in the same sense as MIDI, although I believe some of the Adlib trackers work in a similar way, in that they pass instructions for playback to a specific brand or type of soundcard.Halftheisland (talk) 18:24, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- To try and get at this point in a way that allows us some preliminary organisation, I would suggest that anything which requires the emulation of a specific piece of hardware for playback (like, I believe, some of the Adlib trackers or the PSF variants) should be categorised under Music. Anything which can be played back by any player possessing the correct format info / codecs should go under Audio. Not sure if that's helpful. Halftheisland (talk) 18:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe the best bet would be to create a unified "Audio and Music" category, with subheaders (just like the Graphics category has subheaders for raster, vector, animation, etc.) like "Sound waves", "Musical instrument control", "Trackers", and "Musical Notation" (e.g., guitar tabs)? Dan Tobias (talk) 03:28, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, that sounds like the best solution. That also gives us, I think, a way to deal with files which are audio-related but not strictly audio (e.g. FLP (FruityLoops project files). I'll start splitting it up as best as I can later today. Halftheisland (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- (Never mind, I see a good start has been made on that) Halftheisland (talk) 14:23, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, that sounds like the best solution. That also gives us, I think, a way to deal with files which are audio-related but not strictly audio (e.g. FLP (FruityLoops project files). I'll start splitting it up as best as I can later today. Halftheisland (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe the best bet would be to create a unified "Audio and Music" category, with subheaders (just like the Graphics category has subheaders for raster, vector, animation, etc.) like "Sound waves", "Musical instrument control", "Trackers", and "Musical Notation" (e.g., guitar tabs)? Dan Tobias (talk) 03:28, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- To try and get at this point in a way that allows us some preliminary organisation, I would suggest that anything which requires the emulation of a specific piece of hardware for playback (like, I believe, some of the Adlib trackers or the PSF variants) should be categorised under Music. Anything which can be played back by any player possessing the correct format info / codecs should go under Audio. Not sure if that's helpful. Halftheisland (talk) 18:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- I think trackers pose an interesting problem in the Music vs. Sound issue - they produce single, self-contained files which hold both the instructions for playback and (often) the samples / instruments. They aren't, as far as I'm aware, generally used to control a standalone instrument in the same sense as MIDI, although I believe some of the Adlib trackers work in a similar way, in that they pass instructions for playback to a specific brand or type of soundcard.Halftheisland (talk) 18:24, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Audio and music
You're doing great with the audio and music stuff... keep it up! I never would have imagined there were so many different formats. Dan Tobias (talk) 12:57, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Dan! I thought I had a handle on it but the more research I do the more I discover... still hundreds (at least) to add. Wish I had more time at the moment to dedicate to this - I've got a long way to go before I can match your prodigious output. Halftheisland (talk) 13:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
