User talk:Dan Tobias

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We need to figure out how to deal with disambiguation pages. It is obvious that CSS can be either Cascading Style Sheets or Content Scramble System, and I don't think this particular wiki should give preference to one known value over another if the abbreviation can be expanded to an unambiguous name. That's why I linked to CSS on the DVD page, rather than linking directly to Content Scramble System. Unless we plan to sort this out immediately, it might be best to leave that link in place, so that we don't lose track of it. Thoughts? Gphemsley (talk) 02:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps the current CSS article should be moved to Cascading Style Sheets, and a Content Scramble System article created, with CSS as a disambig article linking to both. But in that case, any specific links to a particular kind of CSS should link directly to the proper one of the articles, not the disambig one. Dan Tobias (talk) 02:18, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Done. And created Template:Disambiguation to keep track of disambiguation pages. Gphemsley (talk) 16:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki links

Just a heads-up: You can link to Wikipedia (and a select number of other wikis) using the regular wikilinking syntax by using the relevant wikiprefix. For example: Wikipedia:User:GPHemsley or Wikipedia:Archive Team. That way you can differentiate more intimate links to Wikipedia from truly external links to other websites. GPHemsley (talk) 17:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Given this site's founder's opinions of Wikipedia, I'm not sure he'd like to get "more intimate" with it, but I'll keep that in mind anyway. Dan Tobias (talk) 23:07, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia - I had a paid writing gig last year and in the guidlines there was a strict prohibition from using or citing Wikipedia. They had good reasons for that... Cipher (talk)

It's still a useful reference if you take it with a big grain of salt. Dan Tobias (talk) 01:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
If you take Wikipedia with a big grain of salt, then you must take every other wiki (including this one) with a whole salt mine. GPHemsley (talk) 15:07, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


Another wikitip: You can change the links in the sidebar by editing MediaWiki:Sidebar (admins only). You might choose to remove "Current events" and "Help" and add some of the links from the Main page, for example. It takes a somewhat special syntax, though, so you'll probably want to consult mw:Manual:Interface/Sidebar for guidance. GPHemsley (talk) 22:26, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips. Dan Tobias (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

re Talk:Text-based_data

How do you feel about splitting the Markup languages section out of Document and a few of the file formats out of Text-based data into a Markup page/category? For instance textile and markdown have different ontologies but are more similar than not. I'm willing to move stuff over if you define the category. As you mentioned on Talk:Text-based data, 'Categorization is getting pretty chaotic' Sethwoodworth (talk) 00:58, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

A lot of stuff in the ontology probably needs rethinking... any attempt to categorize things starts to get messy and inconsistent after a while, and shows the biases of whoever set them up in the first place and whatever lines of thought they happened to be having at the time, which might not end up being relevant later. (See the Dewey Decimal System categories, for instance; it devotes lots of number space to different aspects of Christian churches, then shoves all "Other Religions" in a small section.) Yes, markup probably deserves its own category (though HTML then would belong there, but it's also in the Web category; should things be in just one category or multiple ones?) Dan Tobias (talk) 02:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Hrrm, I see. Maybe things need multiple categories. The CDC's public health image library uses multiple ontologies pretty effectively [1] For now I wont sweat it too much. Search works pretty well. Sethwoodworth (talk) 16:14, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
OK, I added a Markup page. Dan Tobias (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


I noticed that you created IPA to describe some iOS/iTunes format that I'm not familiar with. However, IPA can also refer to the International Phonetic Alphabet, which probably falls under the text encoding/language script portion of this project. It should probably be disambiguated. GPHemsley (talk) 03:23, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion request

Hey Dan, this category was created in error. Would you mind nuking it for me? Lewis Collard (talk) 22:42, 16 March 2013 (UTC)


You may not be aware, but explicitly bolded "self-links" (like this - User talk:Dan Tobias) aren't handled consistently by different web browsers. In some they are bold, and in some (IE, and sometimes Firefox) they are really-really bold. I don't think the wiki software expects you to do that.

Yes, I've noticed that... I kind of like the font Firefox (sometimes) uses for this, which is what got me to start doing it (in imitation of somebody else who first started doing it here a while back; I don't remember who), but perhaps that's an unintended effect? On Firefox on a different machine it doesn't show up, so it seems to depend on system-specific things (like what fonts are installed maybe?). It would be good to be consistent in style, though, so how do you think main titles should be marked up? Dan Tobias (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
I have no preference as to how they're marked up, but I do prefer to see them rendered as normal bold (like Wikipedia), not extra bold. Jsummers (talk) 18:56, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. I think I'll do it that way from now on; my main concern is to stay consistent, not so much to favor one style or another. Dan Tobias (talk) 19:08, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

SVG uploads


As you have noticed i've been doing error codes, fault codes, and other messages and i have now come across this. As you see there are icons displaying an indicator, but i wouldn't want to copy it from their site. I do think that it can be argued that simple shapes are not protected by copyright, but their quality is shit, and i have already recreated the display in SVG (proper SVG, not one of those 'picture-to-svg' things). However, when i attempt to upload it here i find that this wiki doesn't accept SVG at all, which is very strange.

You are the only active admin at the moment, and i was hoping you can help me with this or at least tell me who do i need to sexually gratify to allow me to help this project by uploading some circles )))

Thanks in advance. VolodyA! V Anarhist (talk) 15:36, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't think I have any way of changing that; at least, I don't see anything about it in the array of tools I can see as an admin. Maybe it's a sysadmin-level config thing requiring access to the server. Jason Scott is the owner of the site, but he doesn't show up here much. Dan Tobias (talk) 17:13, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, it is in the LocalSettings file... will ask Jason Scott for help. VolodyA! V Anarhist (talk) 19:13, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi, i see you tried to add DISPLAYTITLE to C Sharp and noticed that it didn't work. Just wanted to explain why (if you are wondering). Basically the default MediaWiki settings only permit to change the display title if it was potentially possible to interpret title this way. For example, when you change the case of the first letter (that gets altered automatically) or when you change space into an underscore (because software would otherwise do the opposite). It is potentially possible to change $wgRestrictDisplayTitle to false, but that would open us to trolling and other bad things. VolodyA! V Anarhist (talk) 05:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Dan Tobias (talk) 12:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


Just came back to create those additional Family tree maker categories and found that you'd done it, Thank you Sam888 (talk) 00:38, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome! Dan Tobias (talk) 02:30, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks again, lighting Dan :) Sam888 (talk) 23:06, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Pages in multiple categories

Hey, I noticed you just created a Saved Games page. I assume any game save formats from the Game data files page should be moved over, but what about if a format falls into both of these categories? For example, Cities Skylines CRP files are used for both save games, as well as community made mods and maps. Can a page be in multiple subcategories, or should it remain in the category it fits best? I'm not really sure who to turn to on formatting issues, so hopefully im in the right place. --Hamhock666 (talk) 05:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

That page has actually been there all along; I just added an entry to it for the newly created "orphan page" that wasn't linked anywhere but was in that category. Pages are sometimes in multiple categories, but the two game-related pages do cross-link to one another. Dan Tobias (talk) 05:27, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
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