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Jsummers at 14:59, 10 April 2016

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Dan Tobias at 20:01, 9 April 2016

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Jsummers: Created page with "Similar to what I said about Binary Data, I think that Markup should rarely if ever be a format's primary category. A format should be categorized based o..."

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Similar to what I said about [[Talk:Binary Data|Binary Data]], I think that Markup should rarely if ever be a format's primary category. A format should be categorized based on its purpose, not its low level structure.

A lot of our Markup formats involve hypertext. The distinction between hypertext, hypermedia, and a lot of modern Document formats is blurry. For convenience, I lean toward lumping hypertext and hypermedia together, in a section named either "Hypermedia" or "Hypertext and Hypermedia". Even then, I'm not sure if a format like Markdown would be Hypermedia, or Document.

This proposed list of primary category changes includes all articles whose primary category is Markup.
* Accelerated Mobile Pages: Web → Hypermedia
* AIML: Markup → Scientific Data formats?
* Binary XML: Markup → Metaformats
* CommonMark: Markup → Document (or Hypermedia?)
* Compressed Markup Language: Web → Hypermedia
* DTD: Markup → Metaformats
* Fountain: Markup → Document
* HTML: Markup → Hypermedia
* LaTeX: Markup → Document
* Markdeep: Markup → Document (or Hypermedia?)
* Markdown: Markup → Document (or Hypermedia?)
* MHTML: Web → Hypermedia
* OBML (Opera Binary Markup Language): Markup → Hypermedia
* RASH: Markup → Hypermedia
* reStructuredText: Markup → Document (or Hypermedia?)
* Scholarly HTML: Markup → Hypermedia
* Scribe: Markup → Document
* SGML: Markup → Metaformats
* TeX: Markup → Document
* Text Encoding Initiative: Markup → Document?
* Wiki markup: Web → Hypermedia
* XML: Markup → Metaformats
* XML Schema Definition: Markup → Metaformats

[[User:Jsummers|Jsummers]] ([[User talk:Jsummers|talk]]) 15:56, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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	:That probably makes sense, though as you note some of them get a bit questionable to categorize... that was the appeal of vague categories like "Markup". [[User:Dan Tobias\|Dan Tobias]] ([[User talk:Dan Tobias\|talk]]) 20:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)		:That probably makes sense, though as you note some of them get a bit questionable to categorize... that was the appeal of vague categories like "Markup". [[User:Dan Tobias\|Dan Tobias]] ([[User talk:Dan Tobias\|talk]]) 20:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
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		+	::On reconsideration, I think that leaving the general markup formats (SGML, XML) and the plaintext/richtext hybrid formats (Markdown, etc.) in Markup is as good as anything else. I still want to move HTML and friends, and probably TeX and others. [[User:Jsummers\|Jsummers]] ([[User talk:Jsummers\|talk]]) 14:59, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

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		+	:That probably makes sense, though as you note some of them get a bit questionable to categorize... that was the appeal of vague categories like "Markup". [[User:Dan Tobias\|Dan Tobias]] ([[User talk:Dan Tobias\|talk]]) 20:01, 9 April 2016 (UTC)