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Gphemsley: /* Additions and suggestions */ reply

2012-11-22T18:37:11Z

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Maurice.de.rooij: /* Additions and suggestions */ editorial

2012-11-22T11:14:41Z

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Maurice.de.rooij: /* Additions and suggestions */ editorial

2012-11-22T11:14:17Z

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Maurice.de.rooij: /* Additions and suggestions */

2012-11-22T11:13:44Z

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Gphemsley: /* Additions and suggestions */ reply

2012-11-21T17:11:39Z

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Halftheisland: /* Not all extensions show up in category pages? */

2012-11-20T12:00:46Z

‎Not all extensions show up in category pages?

Johanvanderknijff at 10:44, 20 November 2012

2012-11-20T10:44:57Z

Johanvanderknijff: /* Not all extensions show up in category pages? */ new section

2012-11-20T10:43:52Z

‎Not all extensions show up in category pages?: new section

JaygattusoNLNZ: /* Headers and ontologies */

2012-11-20T02:06:31Z

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Maurice.de.rooij: /* Additions and suggestions */

2012-11-19T19:40:07Z

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 ::::::: Well, it's not clear to me exactly what that example is showing, but I was thinking "Byte 1=X, go here if Byte 2=Y, go here if Byte 2=Z", etc. So then you'd have a hierarchy of which sequence of bytes means which format. [[User:Gphemsley|Gphemsley]] ([[User talk:Gphemsley|talk]]) 17:11, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 :::::::: The example shows a potential lookup for a bytesequence, in this case for OLE2, and refers to the [[PUID]] it belongs to. It will become clear when I have added more context coming days. Your hierarchy idea would also fit here and for sure going to try that, although IMHO it would be better to use the hexadecimal byte value - [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 11:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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 :::::: Agree about the regex hodgepodge. This is an experiment, so all input is welcome! Did you mean a finite state something like http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/ByteSequence:0/d0cf11e0a1b11ae1  ? [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 19:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 ::::::: Well, it's not clear to me exactly what that example is showing, but I was thinking "Byte 1=X, go here if Byte 2=Y, go here if Byte 2=Z", etc. So then you'd have a hierarchy of which sequence of bytes means which format. [[User:Gphemsley|Gphemsley]] ([[User talk:Gphemsley|talk]]) 17:11, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
-:::::::: The example shows a potential lookup for a bytesequence, in this case for OLE2, and refers to the [[PUID]] it belongs to. It will become clear when I have added more context coming days. Your hierarchy idea would also fit here and for sure going to try that, although IMHO it would be better to use the hexadecimal byte value [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] - ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 11:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::: The example shows a potential lookup for a bytesequence, in this case for OLE2, and refers to the [[PUID]] it belongs to. It will become clear when I have added more context coming days. Your hierarchy idea would also fit here and for sure going to try that, although IMHO it would be better to use the hexadecimal byte value - [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 11:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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 :::::: Agree about the regex hodgepodge. This is an experiment, so all input is welcome! Did you mean a finite state something like http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/ByteSequence:0/d0cf11e0a1b11ae1  ? [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 19:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 ::::::: Well, it's not clear to me exactly what that example is showing, but I was thinking "Byte 1=X, go here if Byte 2=Y, go here if Byte 2=Z", etc. So then you'd have a hierarchy of which sequence of bytes means which format. [[User:Gphemsley|Gphemsley]] ([[User talk:Gphemsley|talk]]) 17:11, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
-:::::::: The example shows a potential lookup for a bytesequence, in this case for OLE2, and refers to the [[PUID]] it belongs to. It will become clear when I have added more context coming days. Your hierarchy idea would also fit here and for sure going to try that, although IMHO it would be better to use the hexadecimal byte value [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 11:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
+:::::::: The example shows a potential lookup for a bytesequence, in this case for OLE2, and refers to the [[PUID]] it belongs to. It will become clear when I have added more context coming days. Your hierarchy idea would also fit here and for sure going to try that, although IMHO it would be better to use the hexadecimal byte value [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] - ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 11:13, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
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 :::::: Agree about the regex hodgepodge. This is an experiment, so all input is welcome! Did you mean a finite state something like http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/ByteSequence:0/d0cf11e0a1b11ae1  ? [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 19:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 ::::::: Well, it's not clear to me exactly what that example is showing, but I was thinking "Byte 1=X, go here if Byte 2=Y, go here if Byte 2=Z", etc. So then you'd have a hierarchy of which sequence of bytes means which format. [[User:Gphemsley|Gphemsley]] ([[User talk:Gphemsley|talk]]) 17:11, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
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 ::::: It's a shame that the pages would be named after something as opaque as a number, but I don't know how you'd get around that... But I'd recommend, if possible, to create a field containing only the literal hexadecimal byte values, instead of the hodgepodge of regex abbreviations. And if you add categories based on the magic numbers, then someone could generate a finite state machine that serves as a file format identifier. Just thinking out loud here. [[User:Gphemsley|Gphemsley]] ([[User talk:Gphemsley|talk]]) 05:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 :::::: Agree about the regex hodgepodge. This is an experiment, so all input is welcome! Did you mean a finite state something like http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/ByteSequence:0/d0cf11e0a1b11ae1  ? [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 19:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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	There's no .wq1 extension in the category page, even though I have no idea why! There are some more examples.		There's no .wq1 extension in the category page, even though I have no idea why! There are some more examples.
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		+	: It looks like if the category is new, you need to create the page with e.g. "Category:File formats by extension\|W" (replace quotes with internal links [[ ]]) [[User:Halftheisland\|Halftheisland]] ([[User talk:Halftheisland\|talk]]) 12:00, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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 :: Nice, thanks for the info. [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 09:59, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
-== Not all extensions show up in category pages?  ==
+=== Not all extensions show up in category pages?  ===
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 [[User:Johanvanderknijff|Johanvanderknijff]] ([[User talk:Johanvanderknijff|talk]]) 10:43, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 It looks like not all file extensions that are defined using the infoboxes show up in the category overview pages. For example, looking at:

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	:: Nice, thanks for the info. [[User:Maurice.de.rooij\|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij\|talk]]) 09:59, 19 November 2012 (UTC)		:: Nice, thanks for the info. [[User:Maurice.de.rooij\|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij\|talk]]) 09:59, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Not all extensions show up in category pages? ==
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		+	[[User:Johanvanderknijff\|Johanvanderknijff]] ([[User talk:Johanvanderknijff\|talk]]) 10:43, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
		+	It looks like not all file extensions that are defined using the infoboxes show up in the category overview pages. For example, looking at:
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		+	http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/index.php/WQ1
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		+	And:
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		+	http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Category:File_formats_by_extension&subcatfrom=P%0AFile+formats+with+extension+.png#mw-subcategories
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		+	There's no .wq1 extension in the category page, even though I have no idea why! There are some more examples.

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 ::: I am comfortable with both being on any page during this period, and then a cleanup operating being done down the line. As soon as categories and infoboxes have a better consistency, Breadcrumbs are doomed. --[[User:Jason Scott|Jason Scott]] ([[User talk:Jason Scott|talk]]) 06:24, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
-.1ae1e=== Additions and suggestions ===
+=== Additions and suggestions ===
 (This is probably the wrong place for this but I figured here was a good start...)
 :Is there a place for a new template object - signature or magic number? e.g. jpg has ÿØÿè as a highly dependable BOF marker.
 :: this has already been researched extensively, please read [[PRONOM]]. [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 04:17, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
-:::I'm not sure a hop to PRONOM helps. If the point of this wiki is to aggregate data about formats, we should consider surfacing signature info directly, and linking the reference back to PRONOM. At the moment the main identifying characteristic of a "format" is not visible on the main record page...
+:::I'm not sure a hop to PRONOM helps. If the point of this wiki is to aggregate data about formats, we should consider surfacing signature info directly, and linking the reference back to PRONOM. At the moment the main identifying characteristic of a "format" is not visible on the main record page for that format... --[[User:JaygattusoNLNZ|JaygattusoNLNZ]] ([[User talk:JaygattusoNLNZ|talk]]) 02:06, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 ::: Although it would be a good idea  to to just that and create a form of registry. The wiki API can output several formats, eg. xml. [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 04:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 :::: First experimental page: [[Registry:fmt/111]] [[User:Maurice.de.rooij|Maurice.de.rooij]] ([[User talk:Maurice.de.rooij|talk]]) 05:36, 16 November 2012 (UTC)